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Alt 15.03.2010, 13:33   #21
SilverDub
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@ Hexenfreak

Thanks I think for your comments, I have used Google translate and think I understand your point - here is the translation:
Hello,

big fish oh God, we praise you ...
us such rarities that you give, then we as THE L-No. may designate.
In my opinion, these are not L173 and L236, but all of the complex L 399/400.
All the L236 which could be to have a very rounded head in profile and a red "tinge" in the first binding to the head and have the whole more of a cream white than that. However, the L173 were all very slender, elongated, and remind a bit of L46 in the body.
Unfortunately, I can see so far, only 6 and L173 were also very small and a pair of L236, but also that everyone knows at least from her pictures.

Actually you could but the L-numbers-stop crisis in relation to this worm line Hypancistrus from the Xingu really slowly and throw all into a pot. No one will ever be able to because reinbringen order. Rather, there are another X points to the fore. Or do we let Bowman ran times, (the only one who would dare well) then it will surely also only 1 to 2 species.

I have concluded that my very poor photography skills arent helping anyone with the ID's. With this in my mind my only option is to let them settle down and condition up, next weekend i have 4 custom photo tanks in the hope that I can take some pictures that do the fish the justice they deserve. I have approximately 80of these Hypans none of which are for sale, for me identifying them has become more important (if this will be done). Hexen, please send me an e-mail to a.holt@tompla.com and I will send you some pictures back of a beautiful adult 236 (if such a fish exists) I have 4/5 adults and many juvies that came in this batch that have the same creamy base colour and angled vermiculate lines. They have been in the UK now for 9 weeks and are looking beter with every week that passes. Thanks for everyones interest and I will occassionally post more pictures.
Alan
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Alt 15.03.2010, 13:42   #22
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@ Zakk, thanks for your comments Zakk, yes these fish did cost more than a new small hatchback car. This is why I got so frustrated (and still am to a certain degree) but I have lots and lots of them so hopefully in time they are justified.

@ Cleaner thanks for your post - wow that is a pretty tank bred 66, for me I would never have guessed that from the colour and pattern. As I and many people have previously said Hypancistrus have become a complete messso many have been shipped, bought, sold, bred together without knowing there true bloodline. Also I think that in many years time with DNA testing we will find there are only a few differant species and like the malawis and tangyanikan cichlids of the rift the valleys they are just regional variations. I have learnt that in evolutionary scale Hypans are very young and so are still trying to work themselves out.

I will keep everyone updated

Alan
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